cariaso ([info]cariaso) wrote,
@ 2007-09-30 10:25:00
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I cannot verify the accuracy of any of this. I pass it on it hopes that it may be true.


> Dear All,
>
> Kindly forgive the brevity and the lack of
> formatting of the following email. I am now sending
> this information out as we are now receiving it. As
> many of you are now aware phone lines have been cut,
> mobile networks have been disabled, and Internet
> access has also been disabled. Information,
> therefore, is now very difficult to obtain and
> confirm. I therefore am unable to confirm any of
> that which follows, but my sources are adamant that
> this is the truth:
>
>
> Soldiers from LID #66 have turned their weapons
> against other SPDC soldiers and possibly police in
> North Okkalappa township in Rangoon and are
> defending the protesters. At present unsure how
> many soldiers involved. Some reports cite "heavy
> shooting" in the area.
>
>
> Other unconfirmed reports have stated that soldiers
> from LID #33 in Mandalay have refused orders to act
> against protesters. Some reports claim that many
> soldiers remained in their barracks. More recent
> reports now maintain that soldiers from LID #99 now
> being sent there to confront them.
>
>
> Reports of approx. 10,000+ protesters gathering
> around the Traders Hotel in Rangoon.
>
> Reports of 10,000+ protesters gathering at San Pya
> Market in Rangoon.
>
> Further reports of approx. 50,000 protestors
> gathering at the Thein Gyi Market in Rangoon.
> According to Mizzima, an unknown number of soldiers
> from Central Command and South East Command are
> presently on their way to Rangoon to reinforce SPDC
> army troops.
>
> Also according to Mizzima, an unknown number of
> aircraft have been scrambled from "Matehtilar"
> airbase - probably a reference to Meiktila in
> Mandalay Division.
>
> According to one journalist, SPDC have turned water
> cannons against crowds at Sule Pagoda. The report
> maintains that the water contained some type of
> chemical. awaiting further information.
>
>
> Please circulate this information as widely as as
> quickly as possible.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason
> Research Director
> Human Rights Documentation Unit
> National Coalition Government of the Union of Burma

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[info]cardinalximinez
2007-09-30 05:27 pm UTC (link)
Holy cow.

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i got this after that
[info]azacs
2007-09-30 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Dear All,

Please note that it is now extremely difficult to obtain reliable information. Phone lines remain cut, and mobile networks down. It seems that Internet services are up and running again inside the country, though many people are still afraid of using the Internet for fear of being traced or having their conversations monitored. As such, except for where explicitly stated, I am not presently in a position to confirm any of the reports listed below. Some of my sources have insisted that the information they are obtaining and forwarding to me is true and confirmed, however, it remains difficult to say with absolute certainty.

The situation now is an extremely fluid one one which, from the information we am obtaining, is changing dramatically almost by the minute. There also seems to be a lot of false information, speculation, and rumour circulating about what is happening. Some of the information which is circulating is, in all likelihood, misinformation which is being deliberatly spread to "egg-on" the protestors and to keep international attention focussed on Burma.

In the time since my last email, we have heard that some of the information contained in my earlier email (included below), may have been false. I will say again, except where explicitly stated, I am not in a position to confirm nor deny these reports and am only relaying what we are hearing. HRDU thus accepts no responsibility for the validity of these reports:

In my earlier email (reproduced below), I mentioned the reports which talked about soldiers from LID #66 who had turned against other SPDC security personnel in Okkalapa Township, however, reports that we have received since then have stated that was not the case. The latest reports have confirmed that LID #66 soldiers are stationed throughout North Okkalapa, but that there has not been any fighting. We are now hearing that the area has been quiet. This report came from one of my contacts who was speaking to people on the ground in North Okkalappa. It now appears as though the earlier reports of the soldiers joining the protests may also have been false.

As for the reports of LID #99 soldiers engaging with LID #33 in Mandaly and of LID #33 joining in the demonstrations, I have just received one report which maintains that LID #33 did not join the protests at all. According to this report there were approx. 200 monks joined by approx. 30,000 laypersons protesting on 31st Street in Mandalay. Some of the soldiers were said to have apologized to the monks and demanded that they return to their monastery. Approx. 15 soldiers then escorted the monks back to the monastery, thus giving the impression that these soldiers had joined the protesters. How much truth is in this report is, as yet, unclear. This information was allegedly obtained during a telephone interview from a source on the ground in Mandalay.

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Re: i got this after that
[info]azacs
2007-09-30 06:27 pm UTC (link)
There have also been some unconfirmed reports that Brigadier General Hla Htay Win, commanding officer of Rangoon Command was arrested today for refusing to follow orders to engage protesters. Some reports maintain that he resigned his post yesterday, while others state that he simply refused orders. Not yet clear which case (if any of it is true).

Some reports have claimed that approx. 15 MPs were expected to soon march from their offices towards Sule Pagoda to join in the protests, though at the time of writing, we had not heard any more info in regard to this.

There have also been other reports that approx. 100 (initial reports said 400) DKBA soldiers from #907 battalion were summoned to the home of Brigadier General Thet Naing Win, commanding officer of South East Command in Moulmein. The report maintained that the soldiers were to continue on Rangoon to support SPDC Army units stationed there. Other reports heard on the border have claimed that the DKBA soldiers were planning on protecting the monks upon arriving in Rangoon. We have not heard any more on this.

A report just sent to me now has confirmed that since reestablishing the internet network, the SPDC has come out on the offensive and many sites have been attacked. According to information we are now receiving, the SPDC is trying to monitor and trace intenet users. One of our technically adept sources is advising internet users to avoid the following blogsites:

http://www.oppositeye.blogspot.com/
http://myanmarthway.blogpsot.com/
http://tharkinwe.blogspot.com/
http://lightofmyanmar.blogspot.com/
http://natshinnaung.blogspot.com/

Our source has deemed these sites dangerous and can be used to track those who visit them as well as disseminating a lot of misinformation. I have not visited these sites to confirm this (for obvious reasons). We are told that the SPDC opened a "windsock" which allows them to "control the ports" and presumably allow them to monitor traffic and possibly even infect computers (I apologise if this is mispelled - I do not pretend to know what it is). Our source also advises that you avoid all sites ending with the suffix: *.ru. These also have been deemed dangerous

As before, please circulate this information as widely as as quickly as possible.

Please see my earlier email below.


Regards,

Jason
Research Director
Human Rights Documentation Unit
National Coalition Government of the Union of Burma

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